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                                    I've been out of the picture
                                
                                
                            
                                    By God's mercy I have this opportunity to greet our listeners
                                
                                
                            
                                    I can tell you
                                
                                
                            
                                    We're going to try to do that as faithfully as possible right to the end
                                
                                
                            
                                    Feed my sheep
                                
                                
                            
                                    We know that it's all in God's care. We are engaged in the task God has assigned us
                                
                                
                            
                                    And now we are approaching closer and closer to that time
                                
                                
                            
                                    Oh, my the reports I receive..
                                
                                
                            
                                    And for every one of our listeners
                                
                                
                            
                                    But also in the lives of our staff
                                
                                
                            
                                    Both in my own life
                                
                                
                            
                                    God has been so merciful
                                
                                
                            
                                    Oh my
                                
                                
                            
                                    And for every one of our listeners God has been so merciful
                                
                                
                            
                                    Also in the staff that they have been able to faithfully feed the sheep
                                
                                
                            
                                    In providing healing mercies
                                
                                
                            
                                    It's been a terrible time for all of us
                                
                                
                            
                                    We see how everybody has been faithfully listening
                                
                                
                            
                                    I am overwhelmed
                                
                                
                            
                                    Have you seen God today?
                                
                                
                            
                                    Have you seen God last week?
                                
                                
                            
                                    Whoopee, I even have the power of death over God!
                                
                                
                            
                                    Whoopee!
                                
                                
                            
                                    Hello
                                
                                
                            
                                    Very well, thank you
                                
                                
                            
                                    Go ahead with your question
                                
                                
                            
                                    Yeah I can hear you go ahead with your question
                                
                                
                            
                                    I'm sorry what is your que--
                                
                                
                            
                                    IN MY UNDERWEAR!?
                                
                                
                            
                                    What in the world are you talking about?
                                
                                
                            
                                    You must have had a dream
                                
                                
                            
                                    But...(Trails off)
                                
                                
                            
                                    Whatever your saying is pure nonsense
                                
                                
                            
                                    Welcome to Open Forum
                                
                                
                            
                                    Welcome2
                                
                                
                            
                                    We have that grand privilege
                                
                                
                            
                                    Let's take our first call tonight and see what they're question is
                                
                                
                            
                                    Shall we take our next call please
                                
                                
                            
                                    We'll look at that together and try to learn
                                
                                
                            
                                    They know full well
                                
                                
                            
                                    We know absolutely that next year May 21, 2011 will be the day
                                
                                
                            
                                    2011
                                
                                
                            
                                    Absolutely
                                
                                
                            
                                    Am I..?
                                
                                
                            
                                    Repeat your question
                                
                                
                            
                                    And anybody who dared to predict a date were always wrong
                                
                                
                            
                                    And for 1955 years you are absolutely correct
                                
                                
                            
                                    1988 was the last year when God recognized the churches
                                
                                
                            
                                    And I can tell you it does not follow the pattern of a great many people wh
                                
                                
                            
                                    ...we have learned a whole lot of information including the time of the end
                                
                                
                            
                                    But when will that be
                                
                                
                            
                                    People love the Lord and they want this message out
                                
                                
                            
                                    My dollar or 20 cents can be used to tell them about the Lord Jesus Christ
                                
                                
                            
                                    I have never received a nickel's worth of salary
                                
                                
                            
                                    If we would sell a radio station and garner some money
                                
                                
                            
                                    It's very obvious you do not understand what the Biblical principle is
                                
                                
                            
                                    The Biblical principle is, freely we have received freely we give
                                
                                
                            
                                    Out of a love for our neighbor
                                
                                
                            
                                    You did not pay one nickel to hear this
                                
                                
                            
                                    But a lot of people did. They made it possible that this program might be o
                                
                                
                            
                                    I can tell you that you have no understanding of what this ministry's all a
                                
                                
                            
                                    My widow could not receive five cents from Family Radio
                                
                                
                            
                                    My widow
                                
                                
                            
                                    But you see
                                
                                
                            
                                    Cough
                                
                                
                            
                                    Excuse me just a moment (grunt)
                                
                                
                            
                                    Excuse me
                                
                                
                            
                                    God was finished with the Church Age
                                
                                
                            
                                    His work was not correct at all
                                
                                
                            
                                    I understand what your saying
                                
                                
                            
                                    It all sounds strange
                                
                                
                            
                                    In the church world and in the evangalism world
                                
                                
                            
                                    On the first day of the Great Tribulation period
                                
                                
                            
                                    They might claim that their an atheist
                                
                                
                            
                                    The temple was referring to the Church Age
                                
                                
                            
                                    Yeah
                                
                                
                            
                                    That's a good question
                                
                                
                            
                                    Yes
                                
                                
                            
                                    Write it in a book and then seal it up
                                
                                
                            
                                    When we look at the book of Daniel
                                
                                
                            
                                    But you see
                                
                                
                            
                                    The Bible taught nobody could know the day or hour
                                
                                
                            
                                    You have no understanding at all
                                
                                
                            
                                    That 4004 years was adopted by the churches to a very high degree
                                
                                
                            
                                    That's all haywire; that's completely contrary to the Word of God
                                
                                
                            
                                    You see, in past history theologians had tried to figure out the timelime o
                                
                                
                            
                                    I'm sorry
                                
                                
                            
                                    But shall we take our next call please. Welcome to Open Forum
                                
                                
                            
                                    Yes2
                                
                                
                            
                                    Hold on just a minute
                                
                                
                            
                                    I'll be right back
                                
                                
                            
                                    We have a caller on the line
                                
                                
                            
                                    Go ahead with you're question
                                
                                
                            
                                    Well, the fact is, we don't ask anybody..
                                
                                
                            
                                    We're not telling anybody what they ought to give
                                
                                
                            
                                    Let each one make they're own decisions on those matters
                                
                                
                            
                                    Yes?
                                
                                
                            
                                    Excuse me! Excuse me!
                                
                                
                            
                                    May 22nd will be Judgment - The second day of Judgment Day
                                
                                
                            
                                    ( Mumbling )
                                
                                
                            
                                    What--How--What's gonna happen
                                
                                
                            
                                    We have no idea at all
                                
                                
                            
                                    It's gonna be a horror story
                                
                                
                            
                                    Millions of people will die on that day and every day thereafter
                                
                                
                            
                                    What will we do the next day it's nonsense
                                
                                
                            
                                    It's utter nonsense
                                
                                
                            
                                    Because it is GOING to happen
                                
                                
                            
                                    This is what the Bible teaches
                                
                                
                            
                                    It IS going to happen
                                
                                
                            
                                    What's gonna happen to Family Radio or the banks or anybody else (Rant)
                                
                                
                            
                                    I've told you what it is
                                
                                
                            
                                    Alright
                                
                                
                            
                                    If you wanna hear it physically
                                
                                
                            
                                    It was a tree
                                
                                
                            
                                    It had some kind of fruit on it
                                
                                
                            
                                    We don't know what kind of fruit
                                
                                
                            
                                    Doesn't make any difference
                                
                                
                            
                                    Maybe it was a banana tree
                                
                                
                            
                                    Maybe it was a peachtree
                                
                                
                            
                                    We don't know
                                
                                
                            
                                    God pointed out to Adam and Eve that tree
                                
                                
                            
                                    I'm calling that the Tree of Knowledge
                                
                                
                            
                                    Giving it a VERY exotic name
                                
                                
                            
                                    We want to see them... Errrgh! You know
                                
                                
                            
                                    Well, it's a dirty ugly sin
                                
                                
                            
                                    The sin of homosexuality
                                
                                
                            
                                    It's repugnant in many, many ways if we describe what's involved
                                
                                
                            
                                    Everybody today has access to all this porn
                                
                                
                            
                                    And everyone has got the potential for sin in they're life
                                
                                
                            
                                    And everyone can go into the privacy of their bedroom
                                
                                
                            
                                    Wherever they have their computer
                                
                                
                            
                                    They can watch this kind of garbage and feed on it
                                
                                
                            
                                    So, they know that they could engage in that same thing
                                
                                
                            
                                    So they can't really feel like that's that bad
                                
                                
                            
                                    That's that bad
                                
                                
                            
                                    It's easy to go along with it
                                
                                
                            
                                    These are only some of the ways it can work
                                
                                
                            
                                    Behind it all God has installed Satan there to rule
                                
                                
                            
                                    Because God is preparing the world for Judgment Day
                                
                                
                            
                                    All this talk about 2012 has nothing to do with the Bible
                                
                                
                            
                                    They cannot find anything of any consequence that identifies with 2012
                                
                                
                            
                                    That is pure nonsense
                                
                                
                            
                                    There is a lot of talk
                                
                                
                            
                                    They had predicted the end of the world in December of 2012
                                
                                
                            
                                    Now others are picking it up who follow their own kind of a gospel
                                
                                
                            
                                    And they're claiming "Oh, yes! That can be found in the Bible"
                                
                                
                            
                                    Sure..
                                
                                
                            
                                    That's what they're saying
                                
                                
                            
                                    But let them produce it in a very clear way as we can show 2011
                                
                                
                            
                                    That's an entirely different situation altogether
                                
                                
                            
                                    Yeah... well
                                
                                
                            
                                    There's NOTHING in the Bible...NOTHING in the Bible
                                
                                
                            
                                    ...that points to 2012
                                
                                
                            
                                    Except that we have some evangalists who are trying to get away from 2011
                                
                                
                            
                                    Because there's a lot of information about that
                                
                                
                            
                                    And their trying to get our direcetion a wrong way
                                
                                
                            
                                    So shall we take our next call
                                
                                
                            
                                    In um... Uh... Hmmmm
                                
                                
                            
                                    Oh, boy
                                
                                
                            
                                    I wrote a little note to myself
                                
                                
                            
                                    And now I can't find.... uhh
                                
                                
                            
                                    These are all left to do..
                                
                                
                            
                                    ( To self) Go down..
                                
                                
                            
                                    ( Laughter )
                                
                                
                            
                                    When I went to college,
                                
                                
                            
                                    I never took notes
                                
                                
                            
                                    I NEVER took notes.
                                
                                
                            
                                    Everybody else was listening TO their professor and taking notes
                                
                                
                            
                                    I never took notes because I knew I couldn't read them after I got to my ho
                                
                                
                            
                                    And I knew it was in the book anyway
                                
                                
                            
                                    So I never did take notes
                                
                                
                            
                                    I try to take notes and do a bad job of it
                                
                                
                            
                                    But anyway
                                
                                
                            
                                    Spiritual 'bleauty'
                                
                                
                            
                                    Butts
                                
                                
                            
                                    SATAN!?
                                
                                
                            
                                    No.
                                
                                
                            
                                    Whose taking all the action?
                                
                                
                            
                                    Whose doing all these things?
                                
                                
                            
                                    The enemies of Christ?
                                
                                
                            
                                    Satan?
                                
                                
                            
                                    NO!
                                
                                
                            
                                    It is CHRIST
                                
                                
                            
                                    Thank you so much
                                
                                
                            
                                    Remember the song?
                                
                                
                            
                                    (Singing) There were twelve apostles
                                
                                
                            
                                    Oh no, it was disciples
                                
                                
                            
                                    There were twelve--Isn't that the way the song goes?
                                
                                
                            
                                    It's been a long time since I've been in Sunday school
                                
                                
                            
                                    The problem is not the act of masturbation
                                
                                
                            
                                    Masturbation
                                
                                
                            
                                    The problem is what is going on in the mind
                                
                                
                            
                                    Masturbating
                                
                                
                            
                                    Thinking wrongly sexually
                                
                                
                            
                                    Sexually
                                
                                
                            
                                    He has already committed adultery
                                
                                
                            
                                    Just to think sexual thoughts
                                
                                
                            
                                    Sexual thoughts
                                
                                
                            
                                    Means that we're in deep sin
                                
                                
                            
                                    What's going on in my mind?
                                
                                
                            
                                    Do I have clean, wholesome thoughts?
                                
                                
                            
                                    I have to take some action
                                
                                
                            
                                    I've been thinking sexually
                                
                                
                            
                                    I have to unload myself
                                
                                
                            
                                    Then you know it's dirty rotten sin
                                
                                
                            
                                    Unload myself
                                
                                
                            
                                    Now what is your question
                                
                                
                            
                                    What is your question
                                
                                
                            
                                    Let's pick up the context
                                
                                
                            
                                    Let's start with verse two
                                
                                
                            
                                    For we know what commandment we gave you by the Lord Jesus
                                
                                
                            
                                    Abstain from fornication
                                
                                
                            
                                    Fornication
                                
                                
                            
                                    Fornication can be looked at spiritually
                                
                                
                            
                                    Physically it is sin
                                
                                
                            
                                    Spiritually, it is any fornication
                                
                                
                            
                                    That every one of you should know how to possess his vessel
                                
                                
                            
                                    This has to do with the relationship between husband and wife
                                
                                
                            
                                    The wife is not a sex object
                                
                                
                            
                                    Sex object
                                
                                
                            
                                    Pornagraphic activity should not be
                                
                                
                            
                                    Uh pornagraphic
                                
                                
                            
                                    Pornagraphic activity
                                
                                
                            
                                    The wife should be looked upon as holy
                                
                                
                            
                                    Not in the lust of concupiscence
                                
                                
                            
                                    Lust
                                
                                
                            
                                    Concupiscence
                                
                                
                            
                                    An old English word for evil desire
                                
                                
                            
                                    Not just to vent your sexual feelings on
                                
                                
                            
                                    Vent your sexual feelings on
                                
                                
                            
                                    To vent your sexual feelings on
                                
                                
                            
                                    To vent your sexual feelings
                                
                                
                            
                                    Vent your sexual feelings
                                
                                
                            
                                    Even as the Gentiles which know not God
                                
                                
                            
                                    The heathen of the world get into this kind of thing
                                
                                
                            
                                    If we're a child of God
                                
                                
                            
                                    This is the verse that was asked about
                                
                                
                            
                                    Go beyond and defraud his brother in any manner
                                
                                
                            
                                    We always have to love our neighbor
                                
                                
                            
                                    Steal from or take advantage of them
                                
                                
                            
                                    Take advantage of them
                                
                                
                            
                                    We want the very best for them
                                
                                
                            
                                    No, please please please
                                
                                
                            
                                    Let's keep the program the way it's designed
                                
                                
                            
                                    Do you have a question from the Bible.
                                
                                
                            
                                    I appreciate your attempt to be kind and all of that but..
                                
                                
                            
                                    ...The focus is not on me at all
                                
                                
                            
                                    It is on the Bible
                                
                                
                            
                                    Let's focus just on the Bible
                                
                                
                            
                                    Do you have a question?
                                
                                
                            
                                    I'm not trying to be rude
                                
                                
                            
                                    But I do want to value the integrity of this program
                                
                                
                            
                                    Therefore we should go to our next caller
                                
                                
                            
                                    Welcome to Open Forum
                                
                                
                            
                                    Welcome to the Open Forum
                                
                                
                            
                                    The number to call is 1-800 322-5385
                                
                                
                            
                                    1-800 322-5385
                                
                                
                            
                                    And I thought..
                                
                                
                            
                                    Brother, you didn't understand the verse
                                
                                
                            
                                    It's correcting the preacher
                                
                                
                            
                                    How often do you hear a preacher say..?
                                
                                
                            
                                    It reveals two things. He's not searching the Bible for truth and pride
                                
                                
                            
                                    Because nobody wants to be proven wrong.
                                
                                
                            
                                    Who likes to say, "I've been wrong, I've been wrong?"
                                
                                
                            
                                    That's humbling. We're too proud for that
                                
                                
                            
                                    But it shouldn't be that way. We have to walk humbly
                                
                                
                            
                                    I have been proud-- Rather SHE has been proud
                                
                                
                            
                                    Notice who she's proud against.
                                
                                
                            
                                    The Lord..
                                
                                
                            
                                    The Lord
                                
                                
                            
                                    Not proud against people. 'I'm smarter than you are' and so on
                                
                                
                            
                                    I'm smarter than YOU are
                                
                                
                            
                                    Oh, yes she has
                                
                                
                            
                                    Ultimately the sin is pride is against God
                                
                                
                            
                                    It is saying, ' I know more than you do, God.'
                                
                                
                            
                                    I...I... (Stuttering)
                                
                                
                            
                                    Every time I think of that I'm appalled..
                                
                                
                            
                                    And here's this little individual saying I know more than you do
                                
                                
                            
                                    And here's infinite God Who brought this grand creation into being...(
                                
                                
                            
                                    With a little teeny mind of and a little bit of knowledge and a little bit of knowledge around him
                                
                                
                            
                                    And he doesn't even know much about that
                                
                                
                            
                                    You say it this way, but I know it would be more proper this way
                                
                                
                            
                                    ...Or that way. We really believe WE have the truth
                                
                                
                            
                                    That is ARROGANCE
                                
                                
                            
                                    It is ARROGANCE
                                
                                
                            
                                    ARROGANCE, it is ARROGANCE
                                
                                
                            
                                    That is ARROGANCE, it is ARROGANCE
                                
                                
                            
                                    That is impossible to conceive but that is the kind of arrogance that exist
                                
                                
                            
                                    Excuse me. No you didn't hear that
                                
                                
                            
                                    You went one step farther than what I've ever taught
                                
                                
                            
                                    Expect to find parables because..
                                
                                
                            
                                    Anything in the Bible not directly involved with the gospel is probably a p
                                
                                
                            
                                    When God says faith cometh by hearing and hearing by the Word of God, that 
                                
                                
                            
                                    That is a direct statement concerning the nature of the Gospel
                                
                                
                            
                                    Christ on the cross is not a parable
                                
                                
                            
                                    Those statements deal directly with the Gospel
                                
                                
                            
                                    When it says Christ got into a ship that has to be a parable
                                
                                
                            
                                    Excuse me! WHAT is your question
                                
                                
                            
                                    Oh excuse me
                                
                                
                            
                                    Your going all around the circle
                                
                                
                            
                                    But your not coming to your question
                                
                                
                            
                                    What is your question
                                
                                
                            
                                    First Kings chapter 19 verse 14
                                
                                
                            
                                    Do you have a question about that verse
                                
                                
                            
                                    Well alright
                                
                                
                            
                                    Now we're going to look at that
                                
                                
                            
                                    And if you don't have a question about, we are going to go to our next call
                                
                                
                            
                                    But let's take a look at it
                                
                                
                            
                                    In Job chapter 1 verse 15
                                
                                
                            
                                    (Reads verse)
                                
                                
                            
                                    God has allowed Satan to torment Job
                                
                                
                            
                                    God is going to show Satan that Job will remain faithful
                                
                                
                            
                                    Even though Satan would torment him in a grievous way
                                
                                
                            
                                    Now what is your question
                                
                                
                            
                                    Well alright.
                                
                                
                            
                                    Thank you for sharing your question
                                
                                
                            
                                    All we can do..
                                
                                
                            
                                    The Bible is the Word of God
                                
                                
                            
                                    It came from the mouth of God
                                
                                
                            
                                    God is the Creator of the world
                                
                                
                            
                                    God is the Eternal Ruler of the whole universe
                                
                                
                            
                                    Therefore He better be listened to
                                
                                
                            
                                    God has given us all this information
                                
                                
                            
                                    ..and that Judgement Day will be here, we better listen
                                
                                
                            
                                    Thank you SO much for calling and sharing
                                
                                
                            
                                    Shall we take our next call. Welcome to the Open Forum
                                
                                
                            
                                    Prostitutes
                                
                                
                            
                                    And shall we take our next call please. Welcome to Open Forum
                                
                                
                            
                                    Please ask the question that is most important to you
                                
                                
                            
                                    For the sake of all the other people
                                
                                
                            
                                    We would like to confine each person to ONE question
                                
                                
                            
                                    I hope you'll understand
                                
                                
                            
                                    But go ahead with your question
                                
                                
                            
                                    You have not asked a question
                                
                                
                            
                                    We're not able to take your call. Try again
                                
                                
                            
                                    Oh, my we lost that caller. Shall we go to the next one?
                                
                                
                            
                                    (faint) Repeats last sentence
                                
                                
                            
                                    Hello?
                                
                                
                            
                                    Go ahead with your call
                                
                                
                            
                                    We're not able to take that call, either. It's way down
                                
                                
                            
                                    And so we'll have to go to our next caller again..
                                
                                
                            
                                    But we have to have a call we can put on the air
                                
                                
                            
                                    And shall we take our next call, please? Welcome.
                                
                                
                            
                                    Now we're gonna stop this discussion RIGHT here
                                
                                
                            
                                    You mocked me, you nasty person. You scorned me.
                                
                                
                            
                                    You ridiculed me so often
                                
                                
                            
                                    I heard every word and now I'M gonna get YOU
                                
                                
                            
                                    Your gonna get it now!
                                
                                
                            
                                    You nasty person
                                
                                
                            
                                    So, what is your question
                                
                                
                            
                                    Anybody
                                
                                
                            
                                    I see a hand way back there
                                
                                
                            
                                    Okay
                                
                                
                            
                                    You went up to my couch
                                
                                
                            
                                    Now what is your question
                                
                                
                            
                                    I don't know
                                
                                
                            
                                    I...I..
                                
                                
                            
                                    I've never looked at this chapter in the light of we're at the end of the c
                                
                                
                            
                                    I really can't answer your question
                                
                                
                            
                                    I..
                                
                                
                            
                                    I have never..uh
                                
                                
                            
                                    I've never meditated or thought about this
                                
                                
                            
                                    I've never meditated or thought about this verse
                                
                                
                            
                                    Mmmm
                                
                                
                            
                                    Notice I'm not giving you a very good solution
                                
                                
                            
                                    ...To this verse because I haven't worked on it
                                
                                
                            
                                    Better not try to go any further because I'll just be speculating
                                
                                
                            
                                    Who has another
                                
                                
                            
                                    We had a lady right here who had her hand up
                                
                                
                            
                                    Six or fix
                                
                                
                            
                                    Would you repeat that please
                                
                                
                            
                                    Genesis 17:7
                                
                                
                            
                                    Genesis 33:7
                                
                                
                            
                                    Some of you are beginning to get a little bit harder of hearing
                                
                                
                            
                                    High voices are more difficult to understand
                                
                                
                            
                                    And it's hard..
                                
                                
                            
                                    To..Uh
                                
                                
                            
                                    ...To understand consonants
                                
                                
                            
                                    In other words, you can say 'six' or 'fix'
                                
                                
                            
                                    We must never say
                                
                                
                            
                                    And that adds to it
                                
                                
                            
                                    If it's not enunciated very distinctly, it's very hard to know
                                
                                
                            
                                    Did she say six or fix
                                
                                
                            
                                    They may revile us
                                
                                
                            
                                    And yet we must never do that to them
                                
                                
                            
                                    Yeah, well... (Gibberish)!
                                
                                
                            
                                    Look at yourself
                                
                                
                            
                                    Ya know
                                
                                
                            
                                    You don't have the Holy Spirit in you!
                                
                                
                            
                                    We never never want to look critically
                                
                                
                            
                                    And so on
                                
                                
                            
                                    Never, never, never, never
                                
                                
                            
                                    We just look sorrowfully at them and say we're praying for you
                                
                                
                            
                                    Because we could wish that you too might see the light
                                
                                
                            
                                    Let God do that work
                                
                                
                            
                                    The Bible will have PLENTY of negative things to say
                                
                                
                            
                                    About what's going on in the churches today
                                
                                
                            
                                    Charlie, help me
                                
                                
                            
                                    He was NOT in the tomb for three days
                                
                                
                            
                                    I got to be careful here
                                
                                
                            
                                    OK. We got--
                                
                                
                            
                                    Where are we, Charlie
                                
                                
                            
                                    Maybe we should go down some of these in the front row
                                
                                
                            
                                    OK
                                
                                
                            
                                    Here's one right here
                                
                                
                            
                                    The feast of dedication is not chanuka
                                
                                
                            
                                    I can find no evidence in the Bible it is a feast of dedication. It probabl
                                
                                
                            
                                    Well..
                                
                                
                            
                                    Now wait a minute
                                
                                
                            
                                    I gotta be careful
                                
                                
                            
                                    I got to be careful here
                                
                                
                            
                                    John
                                
                                
                            
                                    Well, or Chanuka
                                
                                
                            
                                    Even though a lot of it is cultural, it is still the vestige of religious o
                                
                                
                            
                                    In other word, that has been an integral part of the Roman..Uhh...of the Je
                                
                                
                            
                                    The Jewish church
                                
                                
                            
                                    And why do you want to go..
                                
                                
                            
                                    ...and celebrate in a false church
                                
                                
                            
                                    Anything that their celebrating
                                
                                
                            
                                    Why do you want to thumb your nose at God?
                                
                                
                            
                                    That's what your doing
                                
                                
                            
                                    Your just saying, 'Yeah but there's some truth over here.'
                                
                                
                            
                                    There's something here I still like
                                
                                
                            
                                    The fact is, when we come to Christ..
                                
                                
                            
                                    We go all the way
                                
                                
                            
                                    That's why there are people who call themselves 'Christian Jews' and still 
                                
                                
                            
                                    Well, that's ridiculous
                                
                                
                            
                                    Their denying that Christ has come as the Passover
                                
                                
                            
                                    We're done with the Passover
                                
                                
                            
                                    We read about it, we learn from it
                                
                                
                            
                                    We know the spiritual reality
                                
                                
                            
                                    But we certainly don't want to go back and try to observe those rules
                                
                                
                            
                                    That would be totally wrong
                                
                                
                            
                                    You gotta make up your mind. It's Christ all the way
                                
                                
                            
                                    ALL the way
                                
                                
                            
                                    Or..
                                
                                
                            
                                    Or you dont have Christ
                                
                                
                            
                                    No more Chanuka- I wouldn't
                                
                                
                            
                                    I would never advise that
                                
                                
                            
                                    OK. Let's go down the line
                                
                                
                            
                                    (Grunt)
                                
                                
                            
                                    It is not in the Bible
                                
                                
                            
                                    You'll have to ask this gentleman here
                                
                                
                            
                                    He would know more than I would
                                
                                
                            
                                    Well, yeah
                                
                                
                            
                                    I'm gonna talk about that tomorrow at the banquet
                                
                                
                            
                                    Now in order to prepare the church and the world for Judgment,
                                
                                
                            
                                    God did something very interesting
                                
                                
                            
                                    He loosed Satan from his prison
                                
                                
                            
                                    We read that in Revelation 20
                                
                                
                            
                                    He loosed Satan. We read this in Revelation 9
                                
                                
                            
                                    I saw a star fall from Heaven and he had a key
                                
                                
                            
                                    Who is that that has the key to the gates of hell
                                
                                
                            
                                    The Bible tells us that's Jesus
                                
                                
                            
                                    Jesus is the very One
                                
                                
                            
                                    Satan isn't winning because he figured out how to overcome Christ
                                
                                
                            
                                    No way!
                                
                                
                            
                                    He has been loosed to make the church more sinful
                                
                                
                            
                                    Isn't it interesting
                                
                                
                            
                                    Think about this
                                
                                
                            
                                    We get our teaching from the Bible, but we can see it in life itself
                                
                                
                            
                                    We''re living in that day
                                
                                
                            
                                    So we should be able to see that
                                
                                
                            
                                    And if you remember what the churches were 20 or 30 years ago
                                
                                
                            
                                    On the average
                                
                                
                            
                                    The average church 20 or 30 years ago
                                
                                
                            
                                    There was still quite a bit preaching about hell and damnation
                                
                                
                            
                                    There were very few women in the pulpit
                                
                                
                            
                                    They had begun to permit divorce for fornication
                                
                                
                            
                                    But there were not many pastors who got divorced and married again and were
                                
                                
                            
                                    The music was not contemporary
                                
                                
                            
                                    With all the rock beat and all of that that's going on today
                                
                                
                            
                                    That had not quite begun yet
                                
                                
                            
                                    But now today there's been a vast change
                                
                                
                            
                                    In the churches on the average
                                
                                
                            
                                    The charismatic movement and the tongues has spread way more widely than it
                                
                                
                            
                                    There are way more evangelists preaching a prosperity gospel
                                
                                
                            
                                    Or a political gospel of some kind
                                
                                
                            
                                    There are a lot more evangelists preaching sermons with almost no reference
                                
                                
                            
                                    The big churches with 8, 10, 20 thousand members you hardly hear anything a
                                
                                
                            
                                    It's all.. You know, we're all happy in the Lord and so on
                                
                                
                            
                                    That's because God has put SATAN there to rule
                                
                                
                            
                                    And in the world!
                                
                                
                            
                                    Look how sin has multiplied
                                
                                
                            
                                    20 years ago we still would have been scandalized to talk about the gay mov
                                
                                
                            
                                    The way it is now
                                
                                
                            
                                    Now it is simply a way of life
                                
                                
                            
                                    We would have been absolutely scandalized
                                
                                
                            
                                    By some of these revelations of politicians and what their up to
                                
                                
                            
                                    And what we're hearing about in Iraq
                                
                                
                            
                                    Is their murdering off each other and so on
                                
                                
                            
                                    The world has become intensely sinful
                                
                                
                            
                                    It is prepared for each individuals' time at the Judgment throne
                                
                                
                            
                                    They can't argue. Their argument is cut way down
                                
                                
                            
                                    Hey
                                
                                
                            
                                    Hey, God
                                
                                
                            
                                    Hey, God, we really weren't that sinful
                                
                                
                            
                                    Because that sin is (Faltering)
                                
                                
                            
                                    I think for example the sin of sexual perversion
                                
                                
                            
                                    Sexual perversion
                                
                                
                            
                                    You know...The uhh
                                
                                
                            
                                    This ear somehow doesn't have the same hole
                                
                                
                            
                                    The same hole
                                
                                
                            
                                    Hole size
                                
                                
                            
                                    This ear doesn't have the same hole size of the other ear
                                
                                
                            
                                    (Incomprehensible)
                                
                                
                            
                                    That thing wont stay in there
                                
                                
                            
                                    But the, uh..Uh..
                                
                                
                            
                                    Uh... Uh..
                                
                                
                            
                                    Knowing the body chemistry
                                
                                
                            
                                    And all of us have familiarity with that of course
                                
                                
                            
                                    If we're an adult
                                
                                
                            
                                    And we know how we can be tremendously affected
                                
                                
                            
                                    by what we see with our eyes
                                
                                
                            
                                    Pornagraphic literature
                                
                                
                            
                                    Pornagraphic literature, for example, can really, really do things to us
                                
                                
                            
                                    It can really get our minds all messed up
                                
                                
                            
                                    In fact, if you don't believe this. If you ever watched a movie
                                
                                
                            
                                    That is very sad
                                
                                
                            
                                    Very very sad
                                
                                
                            
                                    What do you find yourself do
                                
                                
                            
                                    Weeping
                                
                                
                            
                                    You are weeping
                                
                                
                            
                                    Now you have nothing to do with that movie, this is just a movie
                                
                                
                            
                                    This is just a story
                                
                                
                            
                                    And yet you are emphasizing with it
                                
                                
                            
                                    You are very sad
                                
                                
                            
                                    If you see a movie that is very vicious
                                
                                
                            
                                    Very very vicious
                                
                                
                            
                                    Well, the next thing your going to find yourself yelling at your wife
                                
                                
                            
                                    Because you've been affected by that
                                
                                
                            
                                    In other words, you- Your mind has been
                                
                                
                            
                                    Been..
                                
                                
                            
                                    And the same thing with this business of sexual perversion
                                
                                
                            
                                    Business of sexual perversion
                                
                                
                            
                                    Sexual perversion..
                                
                                
                            
                                    You watch that
                                
                                
                            
                                    And and of course it's of of
                                
                                
                            
                                    For a great many people; Their very intrigued by this
                                
                                
                            
                                    And it just affects them
                                
                                
                            
                                    So that sin is developed
                                
                                
                            
                                    And all of that is part of God's plan
                                
                                
                            
                                    To cause the world to be prepared
                                
                                
                            
                                    And that's what's happening in Revelation 9
                                
                                
                            
                                    The locusts are a picture of the activity of Satan as he works
                                
                                
                            
                                    It was commanded them they should not hurt the grass
                                
                                
                            
                                    That would be a reference to the true believers
                                
                                
                            
                                    This verse proves it
                                
                                
                            
                                    Because it says only those men that have not the seal
                                
                                
                            
                                    Anyone not saved is a pigeon for Satan
                                
                                
                            
                                    ...In this day and being prepared for Judgment Day
                                
                                
                            
                                    In the midst of this God still has this wonderful Salvation program going o
                                
                                
                            
                                    Yes
                                
                                
                            
                                    Uh let's take our next call. Welcome to Open Forum
                                
                                
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